Thanks for the comments folks. The bottom line which we have repeated constantly in many different series and many different posts is that we do not understand respiratory viral transmission. We have covered infection, activation, stress, miasmata, latency and a variety of other theories. All are partly explanatory none explain all the facts. Since the Covid pandemic, science has been highjacked by ideology which is why we have certainty instead of uncertainty, acceptance of dogma, instead of careful investigation.
When my mother was in a care home with mixed bag causes of demtia it was almost impossible to stop them from sending her to hospital. Sometimes it was a simple bump or mild chest infection. The care was excellent in the home and they were only covering themselves just in case we complained.We really need to improve medical care in the community/ care home etc.
HOW DO WE EXPLAIN HOSPITAL ACQUIRED INFECTIONS vs CATCHING THE COMMON COLD?
How do we reconcile these accounts of HAIs with results from the Common Cold Unit - now disbanded - that TTE wrote about last year?
At the CCU, if I remember correctly, they found that whether participants caught a cold depended on, among other things, stress (created under experimental conditions). Simply shooting stuff, taken from people exhibiting symptoms of the common cold, up the nasal passage of well people did not reliably result in infection.
The CCU's findings make me wonder whether the act of admitting ill people to hospital could induce a state of mind that increases, rather than reduces, the risk of their demise, regardless of infectious particles in the environment. There are, of course, other interventions - reported extensively - that could affect the outcome positively or negatively.
Here a little less than 10% of newly admitted hospital patients ("exposed" to people suffering confirmed influenza) became symptomatic.
This is about the same proportion of healthy adult community patients who become symptomatic in any single 'flu' season.
It's possible that it's not "exposure" that is critical (to developing symptoms) but rather some other factor. 90% of those who were exposed to the virus developed no symptoms.
It reminds me of the experiments performed by the 'Common Cold Unit' 50 years ago, which suggested that host well-being strongly modifies symptom development and prognosis, and why isolated populations (such as crew on long voyages) sometimes suffer outbreaks weeks after leaving port.
the point that needs to be endlessly repeated; thanks for this sentinel line
"we do not understand respiratory viral transmission"
there; he said it;
"science has been highjacked by ideology which is why we have certainty instead of uncertainty, acceptance of dogma, instead of careful investigation."
Back in 2020 some spread sheets were produced by the NHS that showed Covid patients admitted from outside & Covid patients 'admitted' within 5 days of a positive test. An existing in-patient who tested positive was reclassified as a new Covid admission. I've not been able to find them since. About 40% of admitted patients appeared to be existing patients prior to being 'admitted' as a Covid patient.
I wonder now, if every hospital patient was PCR tested for 'flu', & any death within 28 days of a positive flu test was ascribed to flu, would we find that we were in the middle of a pandemic again?
You catch the flu in hospital because of that time, when you were 6, that you hit Nancy in the head with a rock. It's the Cosmic Muffin coming back for payback.
Don’t think this miracle drug ever saw the light of day…despite the hype 14 years ago.It’s amazing what you can find in the Epstein files though. JE thought it was ‘very interesting’. Astonishingly, mice infected with H1N1 influenza virus were cured by the drug with no toxic side effects. If only……….
“Miracle drug discovered that cures any viral infection
The drug — a single, broad-spectrum cure for virtually any viral infection — could be the greatest medical discovery since antibiotics. By Bryan Nelson Thu Aug 11 2011 at 1:22 AM EST. Imagine a world without viral infections of any kind. The common cold, influenza, dengue fever, even ebola — all of them, wiped out forever. Even more unfathomable, imagine that the cures for each of them was a single drug. In what might be the greatest medical discovery since antibiotics, scientists working at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory have designed exactly that: a broad-spectrum miracle drug that could one day make viral infections a thing of the past reports MedicaIXPress.com about a paper published in PLosOne………..a broad-spectrum drug that is capable of curing a wide variety of viruses has, until now, remained elusive. “If you detect a pathogenic bacterium in the environment, there is probably an antibiotic that could be used to treat someone exposed to that, but I realized there are very few treatments out there for viruses," said Todd Rider, one of the scientists credited with discovering
the new drug. The MIT team's drug, called DRACO (Double-stranded RNA Activated Caspase Oligomerizers) for short, is most notable for its ability tocure just about any type of virus. So far researchers have tested DRACO against 15 viruses — including rhinoviruses at the root of the common cold, H1N1, a stomach virus, a polio virus, and dengue fever — and found it was equally effective against all of them. “In theory, it should work against all viruses," said Rider. The drug works by utilizing a protein that targets a type of double-stranded RNA produced only in cells that have been infected by viruses. This protein is then combined with another protein that induces cells to undergo apoptosis (or programmed cell suicide). Because the RNA signatures of cells infected with viruses are so unique, DRACO kills only infected cells, leaving healthy cells unharmed. The way that DRACO works is also remarkable in its ability to ward off drug resistance………So far the only live animals to be tested with DRACO have been mice, but the results of those trials were extremely encouraging. Mice
infected with the H1N1 influenza virus were cured by the drug without any toxic side effects. Rider says he hopes to license the technology for trials in larger animals soon, with the end goal being human clinical trials.’”
Thanks for the comments folks. The bottom line which we have repeated constantly in many different series and many different posts is that we do not understand respiratory viral transmission. We have covered infection, activation, stress, miasmata, latency and a variety of other theories. All are partly explanatory none explain all the facts. Since the Covid pandemic, science has been highjacked by ideology which is why we have certainty instead of uncertainty, acceptance of dogma, instead of careful investigation.
Best wishes, Tom
When my mother was in a care home with mixed bag causes of demtia it was almost impossible to stop them from sending her to hospital. Sometimes it was a simple bump or mild chest infection. The care was excellent in the home and they were only covering themselves just in case we complained.We really need to improve medical care in the community/ care home etc.
HOW DO WE EXPLAIN HOSPITAL ACQUIRED INFECTIONS vs CATCHING THE COMMON COLD?
How do we reconcile these accounts of HAIs with results from the Common Cold Unit - now disbanded - that TTE wrote about last year?
At the CCU, if I remember correctly, they found that whether participants caught a cold depended on, among other things, stress (created under experimental conditions). Simply shooting stuff, taken from people exhibiting symptoms of the common cold, up the nasal passage of well people did not reliably result in infection.
The CCU's findings make me wonder whether the act of admitting ill people to hospital could induce a state of mind that increases, rather than reduces, the risk of their demise, regardless of infectious particles in the environment. There are, of course, other interventions - reported extensively - that could affect the outcome positively or negatively.
I remain, yours cynically,
Here a little less than 10% of newly admitted hospital patients ("exposed" to people suffering confirmed influenza) became symptomatic.
This is about the same proportion of healthy adult community patients who become symptomatic in any single 'flu' season.
It's possible that it's not "exposure" that is critical (to developing symptoms) but rather some other factor. 90% of those who were exposed to the virus developed no symptoms.
It reminds me of the experiments performed by the 'Common Cold Unit' 50 years ago, which suggested that host well-being strongly modifies symptom development and prognosis, and why isolated populations (such as crew on long voyages) sometimes suffer outbreaks weeks after leaving port.
the point that needs to be endlessly repeated; thanks for this sentinel line
"we do not understand respiratory viral transmission"
there; he said it;
"science has been highjacked by ideology which is why we have certainty instead of uncertainty, acceptance of dogma, instead of careful investigation."
Back in 2020 some spread sheets were produced by the NHS that showed Covid patients admitted from outside & Covid patients 'admitted' within 5 days of a positive test. An existing in-patient who tested positive was reclassified as a new Covid admission. I've not been able to find them since. About 40% of admitted patients appeared to be existing patients prior to being 'admitted' as a Covid patient.
I wonder now, if every hospital patient was PCR tested for 'flu', & any death within 28 days of a positive flu test was ascribed to flu, would we find that we were in the middle of a pandemic again?
You catch the flu in hospital because of that time, when you were 6, that you hit Nancy in the head with a rock. It's the Cosmic Muffin coming back for payback.
Don’t think this miracle drug ever saw the light of day…despite the hype 14 years ago.It’s amazing what you can find in the Epstein files though. JE thought it was ‘very interesting’. Astonishingly, mice infected with H1N1 influenza virus were cured by the drug with no toxic side effects. If only……….
“Miracle drug discovered that cures any viral infection
The drug — a single, broad-spectrum cure for virtually any viral infection — could be the greatest medical discovery since antibiotics. By Bryan Nelson Thu Aug 11 2011 at 1:22 AM EST. Imagine a world without viral infections of any kind. The common cold, influenza, dengue fever, even ebola — all of them, wiped out forever. Even more unfathomable, imagine that the cures for each of them was a single drug. In what might be the greatest medical discovery since antibiotics, scientists working at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory have designed exactly that: a broad-spectrum miracle drug that could one day make viral infections a thing of the past reports MedicaIXPress.com about a paper published in PLosOne………..a broad-spectrum drug that is capable of curing a wide variety of viruses has, until now, remained elusive. “If you detect a pathogenic bacterium in the environment, there is probably an antibiotic that could be used to treat someone exposed to that, but I realized there are very few treatments out there for viruses," said Todd Rider, one of the scientists credited with discovering
the new drug. The MIT team's drug, called DRACO (Double-stranded RNA Activated Caspase Oligomerizers) for short, is most notable for its ability tocure just about any type of virus. So far researchers have tested DRACO against 15 viruses — including rhinoviruses at the root of the common cold, H1N1, a stomach virus, a polio virus, and dengue fever — and found it was equally effective against all of them. “In theory, it should work against all viruses," said Rider. The drug works by utilizing a protein that targets a type of double-stranded RNA produced only in cells that have been infected by viruses. This protein is then combined with another protein that induces cells to undergo apoptosis (or programmed cell suicide). Because the RNA signatures of cells infected with viruses are so unique, DRACO kills only infected cells, leaving healthy cells unharmed. The way that DRACO works is also remarkable in its ability to ward off drug resistance………So far the only live animals to be tested with DRACO have been mice, but the results of those trials were extremely encouraging. Mice
infected with the H1N1 influenza virus were cured by the drug without any toxic side effects. Rider says he hopes to license the technology for trials in larger animals soon, with the end goal being human clinical trials.’”
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<jeevacation@ginail.corn>, "Boris Nikolic (bgC3)"
Subject: Very interesting.
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:35:29 +0000
http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/stories/miracle-drug-discovered-that-cures-any-viral-infection