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John Davison's avatar

Instantly brings to my mind at least the good old riddle of transmission of "disease".

Precisely why and how did some sadly die and others become ill in varying degrees.

Where did it ie the bacterial meningitis come from. Why are most unaffected.

This line of thought is absolutely crucial to understanding the riddle.

But it has never been done.

I wonder why not.

Alison F's avatar

Considering Nick Rendell's comment below, I'll add that meningitis can be a rare adverse event following various vaccines. There are 2,126 VAERS reports of meningitis following various vaccinations: https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=AGE&EVENTS=ON&FOLLOWOPTIONS=LATEST&SYMPTOMS=Meningitis+%2810027199%29

There are several issues with the reporting system.

1) Obviously, we have no idea which of these (or any VAERS reports) were coincidences, or fully caused by the vaccine, or were situations where the vaccine played a triggering role along with a pre-existing condition.

2) A basic search on meningitis doesn't sort out which vaccine[s] was [were] reported with which event.

We would have to do a separate search for each vaccine, using the specific search terms for diagnosis and diagnostic codes to find that out.

That's a problem, because:

3) There are at least 22 different ways to report and code meningitis as a potential vaccine reaction:

Meningitis (10027197)

Meningitis aseptic (10027201)

Meningitis bacterial (10027202)

Meningitis borrelia (10049078)

Meningitis chemical (10027206)

Meningitis coxsackie viral (10027208)

Meningitis cryptococcal (10027209)

Meningitis echo viral (10027231)

Meningitis enteroviral (10027233)

Meningitis Escherichia (10084029)

Meningitis haemophilus (10027241)

Meningitis herpes (10027242)

Meningitis meningococcal (10027249)

Meningitis mumps (10027250)

Meningitis neonatal (10058780)

Meningitis noninfective (10058760)

Meningitis pneumococcal (10027253)

Meningitis salmonella (10027254)

Meningitis staphylococcal (10027255)

Meningitis streptococcal (10027256)

Meningitis tuberculous (10027259)

Meningitis viral (10027260)

There are also codes for

meningism (10027197)

meningeal disorder (10061281)

meningeal neoplasm (10061282)

meningeal thickening (10083667)

meningococcal bacteraemia (10058858)

meningococcal carditis (10027270)

meningococcal infection (10027274)

meningococcal sepsis (10027280)

meningoencephalitis bacterial (10051256)

meningoencephalitis herpetic (10027285)

meningoencephalitis viral (10074672)

meningoencephalitis herpes (10074249)

Notice the 2 separate codes for "meningoencephalitis herpetic" and "meningoencephalitis herpes," which appear to be identical conditions.

I can't quite make up my mind as to whether whoever designed this reporting system was spectacularly incompetent or whether they wanted to make sure nobody could find relevant reports (assuming the incident was reported, which is, sadly, rare even when the incident was likely strongly associated with the vaccine[s].

Either way, the result is the same. The data we need is to know whether something is or is not going on is not there.

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