If only we had a highly qualified medically trained civil servant whose role it is to gather all evidence,coordinate all reporting bodies, gather data from surveillance and advise the government and health services on issues such as RV HAs which cause many deaths every year.
TTE EXPOSES YET ANOTHER CASE OF LIES, DAMN LIES AND (NON-EXISTENT) STATISTICS
Thank you TTE for your diligence and perseverence.
According to other commentators, it appears that this is not the first failure to find evidence...
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
H. L. Mencken (1880-1956)
"The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,
using hard-hitting emotional messaging." UK Behavioural Insights Team, March 2020
The simple act of the ordinary brave man is not to participate in the lies.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918 – 2008)
The following writer, explains the limitations of focusing on individual nodes in the 'network. - the node here being the MHRA - and failing to see the bigger picture that ultimately shapes the future:
Initially I had to laugh out loud at those systematic reviews of nothing, because I have never seen such a thing.
However, the very 'nothingness' of the evidence is evidence of a kind, in that it evidences the lack of evidence behind such extraordinary documents as 'The Scottish Government COVID-19 Nosocomial Review Group (CNRG) released guidance on NHS Scotland Health & Care COVID-19 Remobilisation – Built Environment including physical distancing diagrams (v1-0)'. which can be found here. https://www.nss.nhs.scot/publications/information-message-im2020024/
For me these spirograph-inspired diagrams perfectly represent the pandemic response in the healthcare setting. Into the void of knowledge we created the illusion of certainty and control, through layer upon layer of ever more complex infection control measures, until we reached the point of daily testing of asymptomatic people, CO2 detectors and sawing off doors. No one made any attempt to check whether any or all such measures had a net overall benefit, and there certainly has been little if any consideration given to potential negative consequences (such as bed capacity, staffing, environmental factors, downsides of face coverings and restriction on visitors).
Underpinning such protocols was I believe not just the genuine effort to reduce the spread of infection, but also the fear that organisations could and would be held accountable, possibly even liable for respiratory infections acquired in a healthcare setting -remember the efforts some unions/representative groups went to in order to try to get Long Covid classified as an occupational disease and then consider the potential ramifications of such a step.
There is a strong need to be seen to be doing something, more so since the pandemic. There is also an expectation that something can and must be done, with no negative impact of anything we choose to do in the name of infection control. I honestly don't think those people designing local and national protocols are very much interested in the evidence base as we have come to understand it, using orthodox synthesis methods. These days it is perfectly possible to find some sort of evidence to justify your designed protocol. In Greenhalgh's proposed new era of ''EBM Plus' I'm afraid 'evidence-based practice' as we currently know it will take second place to 'practice based evidence'.
". Into the void of knowledge we created the illusion of certainty and control, through layer upon layer of ever more complex infection control measures, until we reached the point of daily testing of asymptomatic people, CO2 detectors and sawing off doors."
so well said; perhaps they needed more powerful BS detectors instead.
I did my degree in the 1990s with the OU and one of the courses was called Health and Disease - it was a brilliant course and moved through history from why hysteria is so named to the AIDS and heart disease issues in the 1980s. One of the problems addresses was what was then called iatrogenic diseases, many papers and studies were carried out from the late 1970s onwards as to how to deal with the problems. And nearly 50 years later…
that was 40 yrs ago; folks back then could talk; offer differing views; dissent from the attempted imposition of authoritarian orthodoxy; now .............
2025 who the 50th anniversary of the publication of Ivan Illich’s Medical Nemesis - although he doesn’t use the term Iatrogenesis in this publication his work was a fore runner for this term.
So have I got this right? No one knows how RVHAIs cases are being transmitted. No one has any plans to monitor or control these cases and indeed there are no plans to do this for the future. No one is keeping any records of confirmed cases.
Perhaps I can help a little here. Whilst an impatient for 8 days last year after a serious accident, I contracted EColi in hospital in July 2025 and subsequently was found to be infected with Klebsiella in August and September 2025. After making an official complaint about the serious effects of these HAIs and the lack of interest in how I contracted them, I’m still waiting for a response from the hospital and PALs.
I had a phone call last week from a representative from the hospital suggesting that one of the reasons I contracted these infections were firstly that I had E. coli in 2023 and also whilst I was an impatient (bed bound for 3 days with a urinary catheter and on heavy pain control medications) I refused to have a wash and have my sheets changed. Needless to say, I didn’t find that a particularly convincing explanation so I’ve asked for an explanation in writing. Will keep you posted. Do I count as having two cases of HAIs - perhaps we could start counting now.
Truly remarkable achievement Dan and yet it must be so painful still sitting on that fence…straddled over that nasty little word ‘may’….perhaps 3 masks each and sawing some doors off would have equated to ‘ Wearing masks in the hospital does provide benefit for hospitalised immunocompromised patients.” Rather than their mealy mouthed conclusion. ‘Wearing masks in the hospital may provide benefit for hospitalized immunocompromised patients.
A lot has changed since I last worked as a hospital doctor circa 1979. I dont remember Hospital Acquired Infections being a particular problem.
DHSC, UKHSA, NHS England don't need a policy for prevention of RVHAIs because, as everyone knows, the only way to prevent illness from Respiratory Viruses is vaccines.
More research, more data, more vaccines, more coverage is what we need. That is the raison d'être for Pharma.
Why are us oldies still waiting for a vaccine for Human Metapneumovirus?
If only we had a highly qualified medically trained civil servant whose role it is to gather all evidence,coordinate all reporting bodies, gather data from surveillance and advise the government and health services on issues such as RV HAs which cause many deaths every year.
This comment is perfect
TTE EXPOSES YET ANOTHER CASE OF LIES, DAMN LIES AND (NON-EXISTENT) STATISTICS
Thank you TTE for your diligence and perseverence.
According to other commentators, it appears that this is not the first failure to find evidence...
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
H. L. Mencken (1880-1956)
"The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,
using hard-hitting emotional messaging." UK Behavioural Insights Team, March 2020
The simple act of the ordinary brave man is not to participate in the lies.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918 – 2008)
The following writer, explains the limitations of focusing on individual nodes in the 'network. - the node here being the MHRA - and failing to see the bigger picture that ultimately shapes the future:
https://escapekey.substack.com/p/agents-for-the-rothschilds
I remain, yours cynically,
Initially I had to laugh out loud at those systematic reviews of nothing, because I have never seen such a thing.
However, the very 'nothingness' of the evidence is evidence of a kind, in that it evidences the lack of evidence behind such extraordinary documents as 'The Scottish Government COVID-19 Nosocomial Review Group (CNRG) released guidance on NHS Scotland Health & Care COVID-19 Remobilisation – Built Environment including physical distancing diagrams (v1-0)'. which can be found here. https://www.nss.nhs.scot/publications/information-message-im2020024/
For me these spirograph-inspired diagrams perfectly represent the pandemic response in the healthcare setting. Into the void of knowledge we created the illusion of certainty and control, through layer upon layer of ever more complex infection control measures, until we reached the point of daily testing of asymptomatic people, CO2 detectors and sawing off doors. No one made any attempt to check whether any or all such measures had a net overall benefit, and there certainly has been little if any consideration given to potential negative consequences (such as bed capacity, staffing, environmental factors, downsides of face coverings and restriction on visitors).
Underpinning such protocols was I believe not just the genuine effort to reduce the spread of infection, but also the fear that organisations could and would be held accountable, possibly even liable for respiratory infections acquired in a healthcare setting -remember the efforts some unions/representative groups went to in order to try to get Long Covid classified as an occupational disease and then consider the potential ramifications of such a step.
There is a strong need to be seen to be doing something, more so since the pandemic. There is also an expectation that something can and must be done, with no negative impact of anything we choose to do in the name of infection control. I honestly don't think those people designing local and national protocols are very much interested in the evidence base as we have come to understand it, using orthodox synthesis methods. These days it is perfectly possible to find some sort of evidence to justify your designed protocol. In Greenhalgh's proposed new era of ''EBM Plus' I'm afraid 'evidence-based practice' as we currently know it will take second place to 'practice based evidence'.
". Into the void of knowledge we created the illusion of certainty and control, through layer upon layer of ever more complex infection control measures, until we reached the point of daily testing of asymptomatic people, CO2 detectors and sawing off doors."
so well said; perhaps they needed more powerful BS detectors instead.
I did my degree in the 1990s with the OU and one of the courses was called Health and Disease - it was a brilliant course and moved through history from why hysteria is so named to the AIDS and heart disease issues in the 1980s. One of the problems addresses was what was then called iatrogenic diseases, many papers and studies were carried out from the late 1970s onwards as to how to deal with the problems. And nearly 50 years later…
that was 40 yrs ago; folks back then could talk; offer differing views; dissent from the attempted imposition of authoritarian orthodoxy; now .............
2025 who the 50th anniversary of the publication of Ivan Illich’s Medical Nemesis - although he doesn’t use the term Iatrogenesis in this publication his work was a fore runner for this term.
So have I got this right? No one knows how RVHAIs cases are being transmitted. No one has any plans to monitor or control these cases and indeed there are no plans to do this for the future. No one is keeping any records of confirmed cases.
Perhaps I can help a little here. Whilst an impatient for 8 days last year after a serious accident, I contracted EColi in hospital in July 2025 and subsequently was found to be infected with Klebsiella in August and September 2025. After making an official complaint about the serious effects of these HAIs and the lack of interest in how I contracted them, I’m still waiting for a response from the hospital and PALs.
I had a phone call last week from a representative from the hospital suggesting that one of the reasons I contracted these infections were firstly that I had E. coli in 2023 and also whilst I was an impatient (bed bound for 3 days with a urinary catheter and on heavy pain control medications) I refused to have a wash and have my sheets changed. Needless to say, I didn’t find that a particularly convincing explanation so I’ve asked for an explanation in writing. Will keep you posted. Do I count as having two cases of HAIs - perhaps we could start counting now.
Yes Bilbo, you got it.
Best, Tom.
you do realise it was all entirely your fault, don't you Bilbo? If only you hadn't .......
I blame myself for being barely conscious when they asked me about changing the sheets James ! Of course it’s no one’s fault but mine.
and it serves you right; refusing to cooperate with "the authorities"; you got what you deserved; what an excuse: "barely conscious" pffffff
According to the NIH Hospital all you have to do is wear a mask:
https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/12/Supplement_1/ofae631.900/7986832
So that's zero cases of Influenza from April 8, 2020 to March 31, 2024, somehow they managed to see 1 RSV infection.
Those folks are incredible don't you know.
Truly remarkable achievement Dan and yet it must be so painful still sitting on that fence…straddled over that nasty little word ‘may’….perhaps 3 masks each and sawing some doors off would have equated to ‘ Wearing masks in the hospital does provide benefit for hospitalised immunocompromised patients.” Rather than their mealy mouthed conclusion. ‘Wearing masks in the hospital may provide benefit for hospitalized immunocompromised patients.
https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/12/Supplement_1/ofae631.900/7986832?login=false
Obviously you've never been to the NIH Hospital.....
https://images.pexels.com/photos/6303532/pexels-photo-6303532.jpeg?_gl=1*ux3xnw*_ga*MTAwMzU2MzQ1Ni4xNzcyMTM4MzAw*_ga_8JE65Q40S6*czE3NzIxMzgyOTkkbzEkZzEkdDE3NzIxMzgzNjUkajYwJGwwJGgw
It seems the NIH crew clearly need to teach St George's a thing or two about masking:
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(23)00398-5/abstract#:~:text=in%20infection%20rate.-,Conclusion,SARS%2DCoV%2D2%20infection.
A lot has changed since I last worked as a hospital doctor circa 1979. I dont remember Hospital Acquired Infections being a particular problem.
DHSC, UKHSA, NHS England don't need a policy for prevention of RVHAIs because, as everyone knows, the only way to prevent illness from Respiratory Viruses is vaccines.
More research, more data, more vaccines, more coverage is what we need. That is the raison d'être for Pharma.
Why are us oldies still waiting for a vaccine for Human Metapneumovirus?
"Conclusion
The aim of this review was to identify and assess available evidence relating to asymptomatic
and presymptomatic transmission of Influenza A in humans.
However, no relevant evidence (from observational studies, case series or case reports) was identified ..
.. and therefore this review is unable to inform on the occurrence of such transmission in humans.
As there have not been any human outbreaks of the zoonotic influenza A subtypes covered in the review, this is not unexpected."