Consider yourselves recused. What an absolute stinkfest! Thank you for daring to ask where our money has gone and keep asking and asking….and asking. I will ask my MP. I respectfully suggest we all do and start making waves.
Hi Tom and Carl, this is a quick compilation of the letter I plan to send to my MP. I wanted to run it by you and everyone else interested to see whether you think it passes muster.
Please don’t hesitate to point out where I’m falling down. If you think it’s okay and gets your stamp of approval it will be going off asap but I’m sure you have a rest sometimes.😉
Dear *******
I am a member of a group called Trust the Evidence (TTE) which had done extensive research into a contract purchasing a bird flu vaccine - ostensibly in anticipation of a bird flu pandemic in the very near future. Most of the content of my letter to you has been reproduced from information stated on the TTE website today
The UKHSA who purchased this vaccine with taxpayers’ money continues to shroud the purchase and the details of the procurement purchase contract in mystery. Drawing information from them is like drawing teeth and can only be secured by persistent freedom of information requests.
The 90 page contract for the purchase by the UKHSA of H5N8 - a zoonotic influenza vaccine tells us about a vaccine bought with our money to apparently protect us from a virtually non-existent threat. The purchaser is “The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care acting as part of the Crown through the UK Health Security Agency”.
This makes the UKHSA’s apparent ignorance of the meaning of infectiousness or the properties of the vaccine they bought very puzzling. There is no date on the contract which is a problem. There is a brief description of what has been bought: “Zoonotic influenza vaccine (H5N8) (surface antigen, inactivated, adjuvanted), containing virus surface antigens (haemagglutinin and neuraminidase) of strain: A/Astrakhan/3212/2020 (H5N8)-like strain (CBER- RG8A) (clade 2.3.4.4b) 7.5 micrograms HA per 0.5 ml dose in pre-filled syringe (type I glass) with plunger- stopper (bromo-butyl rubber)”. So it’s a ready-packed vaccine against influenza H5N8.
So why was it referred to as H5 in the tender?
The date is important.
According to the contracts files identified by Professors Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson from the TTE Group, the Seqirus contract runs for 12 months from 1 November 2024 (which matches the tender giving a termination at the end of November 2025). As the shelf life is 18 months at the most, if ‘chickens’ are still dying, at the latest in mid-2026, we would need to seek further procurement as this particular purchase will be useless. The bird flu vaccine has to have valid market authorisation by MHRA and the EMA (the EU comes into play because of the Northern Ireland Protocol).
The contract price the Minister refused to divulge to Parliament is to be found in the Commercial Schedule as mentioned on pdf page 23 of the contract. Except that, TTE can find no mention of the price. Again, it’s secret.
The supplier is liable for damages only in the case of negligence or the defective product (very loose definitions and legally difficult to prove). But this is all standard stuff, which is one of the reasons why you hardly ever see legal proceedings.
Schedule 3 has an interesting part: 1. Confidentiality
See 1.2 Nothing in this Clause 1 shall prevent the Recipient from disclosing Confidential Information where it is required to do so by judicial, administrative, governmental orregulatory process in connection with any action, suit, proceedings or claim or otherwise by applicable Law, including the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (“FOIA”), Codes of Practice on Access to Government Information, on the Discharge of Public Authorities’ Functions or on the Management of Records (“Codes of Practice”), or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004 (“Environmental Regulations”).
2.3 The Parties acknowledge that, except for any information which is exempt from disclosure in accordance with the provisions of the FOIA, Codes of Practice, and Environmental Regulations, the content of this Contract is not Confidential Information
I believe as does TTE, the UKHSA has an obligation to reveal all about this contract, its purpose, the evidence supporting its efficacy and the cost - we - the taxpayers have paid for it.
TTE had a speculative estimate of the price of 5.5 million doses of bird flu vaccine.
The UKHSA has tendered ( https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2024/W39/831258769 ) for this, and according to their list, the price is £551,279,000 over 5 years. However, this is probably not specific to the 5.5 million doses of bird flu vaccine and includes other biologics. TTE as do I a taxpayer, think this is an irresponsible, inexplicable and totally unjustifiable use of taxpayers’ money for something that must be disposed of at the very latest in 2026.
As your constituent, please would you raise this matter on my behalf and seek some answers in the House of Commons?
They are still infected with the "I don't know what to do " or the" should've done more and sooner" viruses, vaccination for which prevents the "egg on face" virus.
That is another £50 million to be added to the many billions that our political elites and government bureaucrats have wasted over the last few years. It is always the way... when there is no accountability then they will spend our money like there is no tomorrow. We need to get rid of all of those self-serving parasites once and for all. Is there any medication I can take for boiling blood?
I can think of lots of nice things that could be done with said sum that would be a lot more useful, but it's such a long list that I don't know where to begin...
Consider yourselves recused. What an absolute stinkfest! Thank you for daring to ask where our money has gone and keep asking and asking….and asking. I will ask my MP. I respectfully suggest we all do and start making waves.
Big pharma are laughing all the way to the bank aren’t they? And laughing up their sleeves at the stupidity of the people handing out the cash.
£551,279,000 over 5 years.
Perhaps we've discovered the chancellors black hole!?
Whose bl00dy money do they think it is?
Hi Tom and Carl, this is a quick compilation of the letter I plan to send to my MP. I wanted to run it by you and everyone else interested to see whether you think it passes muster.
Please don’t hesitate to point out where I’m falling down. If you think it’s okay and gets your stamp of approval it will be going off asap but I’m sure you have a rest sometimes.😉
Dear *******
I am a member of a group called Trust the Evidence (TTE) which had done extensive research into a contract purchasing a bird flu vaccine - ostensibly in anticipation of a bird flu pandemic in the very near future. Most of the content of my letter to you has been reproduced from information stated on the TTE website today
The UKHSA who purchased this vaccine with taxpayers’ money continues to shroud the purchase and the details of the procurement purchase contract in mystery. Drawing information from them is like drawing teeth and can only be secured by persistent freedom of information requests.
The 90 page contract for the purchase by the UKHSA of H5N8 - a zoonotic influenza vaccine tells us about a vaccine bought with our money to apparently protect us from a virtually non-existent threat. The purchaser is “The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care acting as part of the Crown through the UK Health Security Agency”.
This makes the UKHSA’s apparent ignorance of the meaning of infectiousness or the properties of the vaccine they bought very puzzling. There is no date on the contract which is a problem. There is a brief description of what has been bought: “Zoonotic influenza vaccine (H5N8) (surface antigen, inactivated, adjuvanted), containing virus surface antigens (haemagglutinin and neuraminidase) of strain: A/Astrakhan/3212/2020 (H5N8)-like strain (CBER- RG8A) (clade 2.3.4.4b) 7.5 micrograms HA per 0.5 ml dose in pre-filled syringe (type I glass) with plunger- stopper (bromo-butyl rubber)”. So it’s a ready-packed vaccine against influenza H5N8.
So why was it referred to as H5 in the tender?
The date is important.
According to the contracts files identified by Professors Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson from the TTE Group, the Seqirus contract runs for 12 months from 1 November 2024 (which matches the tender giving a termination at the end of November 2025). As the shelf life is 18 months at the most, if ‘chickens’ are still dying, at the latest in mid-2026, we would need to seek further procurement as this particular purchase will be useless. The bird flu vaccine has to have valid market authorisation by MHRA and the EMA (the EU comes into play because of the Northern Ireland Protocol).
The contract price the Minister refused to divulge to Parliament is to be found in the Commercial Schedule as mentioned on pdf page 23 of the contract. Except that, TTE can find no mention of the price. Again, it’s secret.
The supplier is liable for damages only in the case of negligence or the defective product (very loose definitions and legally difficult to prove). But this is all standard stuff, which is one of the reasons why you hardly ever see legal proceedings.
Schedule 3 has an interesting part: 1. Confidentiality
See 1.2 Nothing in this Clause 1 shall prevent the Recipient from disclosing Confidential Information where it is required to do so by judicial, administrative, governmental orregulatory process in connection with any action, suit, proceedings or claim or otherwise by applicable Law, including the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (“FOIA”), Codes of Practice on Access to Government Information, on the Discharge of Public Authorities’ Functions or on the Management of Records (“Codes of Practice”), or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004 (“Environmental Regulations”).
2.3 The Parties acknowledge that, except for any information which is exempt from disclosure in accordance with the provisions of the FOIA, Codes of Practice, and Environmental Regulations, the content of this Contract is not Confidential Information
I believe as does TTE, the UKHSA has an obligation to reveal all about this contract, its purpose, the evidence supporting its efficacy and the cost - we - the taxpayers have paid for it.
TTE had a speculative estimate of the price of 5.5 million doses of bird flu vaccine.
According to one source ( https://www.vax-before-travel.com/34-million-funds-sixth-avian-influenza-pandemic-preparedness-award-2024-10-07 ) the US purchased 3 million doses of vaccine at $34 million. So, using the same value, TTE came up with a total of $62.3 Million or roughly £50 million for the 5.5 million doses ordered in the UK. They added the costs of stocking, management, warehousing and delivery.
The UKHSA has tendered ( https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2024/W39/831258769 ) for this, and according to their list, the price is £551,279,000 over 5 years. However, this is probably not specific to the 5.5 million doses of bird flu vaccine and includes other biologics. TTE as do I a taxpayer, think this is an irresponsible, inexplicable and totally unjustifiable use of taxpayers’ money for something that must be disposed of at the very latest in 2026.
As your constituent, please would you raise this matter on my behalf and seek some answers in the House of Commons?
PS if it’s okay, I thought it may be helpful as an easy template for others who may wish to use it.
They are still infected with the "I don't know what to do " or the" should've done more and sooner" viruses, vaccination for which prevents the "egg on face" virus.
That is another £50 million to be added to the many billions that our political elites and government bureaucrats have wasted over the last few years. It is always the way... when there is no accountability then they will spend our money like there is no tomorrow. We need to get rid of all of those self-serving parasites once and for all. Is there any medication I can take for boiling blood?
I can think of lots of nice things that could be done with said sum that would be a lot more useful, but it's such a long list that I don't know where to begin...
' The total is, well, a lot of dosh for something that will be thrown in the bin at the latest in 2026. '
Or, you could use it, just to be on the safe side and get some field data while you are at it, which will be commercial in confidential of course
( I am joking)